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Which kind of insulation materials?

by: Riccardo Bozzo (riccardo.bozzo) 28 September 2015, 9:06:58 AM (GMT +1)

Dear Madam/Sir,

I wonder if I can use this PCR for insulation materials of technological systems (such as boilers or ventilation systems) in buildings.

Many thanks and best regards.

Riccardo Bozzo

Re: Which kind of insulation materials?

by: Kristian Jelse (kristianjelse) 28 September 2015, 4:24:23 PM (GMT +1)

Dear Riccardo,

The scope of the PCR is thermal insulation products as defined in Section 2 of the document.

Best regards,
Kristian Jelse, Secretariat

Re: Which kind of insulation materials?

by: Riccardo Bozzo (riccardo.bozzo) 28 September 2015, 4:48:17 PM (GMT +1)

Dear Kristian,

I already read the Section 2 of the PCR but I still have doubts.

The field of exclusion clearly indicates insulation materials used mainly for their structural function in buildings.

Insulation materials of technological systems are part of all thermal insulation products for building purposes but it's not clearly stated if they are included or not.

Best regards,

Riccardo

Re: Which kind of insulation materials?

by: Kristian Jelse (kristianjelse) 29 September 2015, 1:18:12 PM (GMT +1)

Dear Riccardo,

Without being an expert, I would not interpret boilers or ventilation systems as insulation materials. I would classify those as building-related equipments. Would the functional unit really be applicable for such products as you describe?

Best regards,
Kristian Jelse

Re: Which kind of insulation materials?

by: Riccardo Bozzo (Riccardo.Bozzo) 29 September 2015, 6:03:26 PM (GMT +1)

Dear Kristian, 

many thanks for your answers.

But here is my final question: insulation materials placed on building-related equipment to improve the environmental performances of the building are included?

Thank you very much, I really appreciate.

Riccardo

Re: Which kind of insulation materials?

by: Kristian Jelse (kristianjelse) 30 September 2015, 10:35:37 AM (GMT +1)

Dear Riccardo,

I'm sorry, but I do not understand the product to which you are referring. Perhaps you could discuss the applicability of the PCR with a potential independent verifier with more knowledge on the product category than myself?

Best regards,
Kristian

Re: Which kind of insulation materials?

by: Riccardo Bozzo (Riccardo.Bozzo) 30 September 2015, 2:06:36 PM (GMT +1)

Dear Kristian,  

many thanks for your answers. 

The product is an insulating tubular to put on pipes that come from boilers or ventilation systems.

These pipes can be inside or outside the walls.

Thank you very much, I really appreciate.

I will also contact a potential independent verifier.

Riccardo

Re: Which kind of insulation materials?

by: Nicola Mela (nmela78) 11 December 2015, 9:32:39 AM (GMT +1)

Dear Riccardo and Kristian,

I think that Riccardo is asking if insulation materials for building equipments undergo this PCR scope.
In my opinion is not so easy to solve this issue: in Section 2 there are no clear elements to definetely include or exclude equipment insulation from PCR product group definition.
Anyway just to give an indication for what concerns ventilation system you could take a look at an other PCR : Air Ducts, substantial materials...for insulated sheet metal ducts.

Re: Which kind of insulation materials?

by: Nicola Mela (nmela78) 11 December 2015, 10:31:36 AM (GMT +1)

Dear Riccardo and Kristian,

I think that Riccardo is asking if insulation materials for building equipments undergo this PCR scope.
In my opinion is not so easy to solve this issue: in Section 2 there are no clear elements to definetely include or exclude equipment insulation from PCR product group definition.
Anyway just to give an indication for what concerns ventilation system you could take a look at an other PCR : Air Ducts, substantial materials...for insulated sheet metal ducts.

Re: Which kind of insulation materials?

by: C Foster (cfoster) 28 October 2016, 1:58:19 PM (GMT +1)

Based on experience of LCA of insulationmaterials, I would say that it should be possible to use the PCR for insulations used on equipment. However, it might be wise for the PCR to require that the conditions under which the declared unit is calculated (e.g. ambient vs. insulated material temperature ranges) are reported in the Project Report , and possibly that the conditions under which the decalred unti is valid are reported in the EPD. SO the user can distinguish whether the declared unit is valid for building insulation or insulation of heated/cooled fluids, and at which temperature range etc.

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